Re: Gabriel by Agnes Martin

From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Mar 24 2009 - 09:23:13 PDT

if you have the audacity to tell someone they are 'out of line'
i cannot really be that respectful of your mind

there is a long standing delineation of artist/filmmaker on the list and in
the community of underground filmmakers (purists) the bias is present that
is my perception - that is my experience whether you believe that to be 'out
of line' or not is totally irrelevant

as far as my analysis of the film i see no large difference between it and a
brakhage film when he films a cat - that was my exact reference point in the
post - the only difference to me is in my mind because i know that brakhage
filmed his wife having a baby, an autopsy... other more 'amazing' things
than the cat

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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Chris Kennedy <email suppressed>wrote:

> Cari, youíre out of line.
> The whole experimental film world is made up of Ďartistsí who dare to pick
> up a camera. To use that attack on Fred, after your other one, is really
> just attacking with a blunt knife. No oneís hurt very badly -- you just end
> up messy and exhausted. And those around as witnesses just think, oh, gross.
> After the pleasant surprise of hearing that Martin made a film, it is a
> disappointment to hear that it may not be any good (which even her own
> descriptions may point to). Still, Iíd probably search it out, because it is
> AGNES MARTIN, which is a name that, frankly, rings like BRAKHAGE in many a
> fine circle (and even amongst the squares). And when I watch it, Iíll
> probably feel like I did just lose an hour to a mediocre film... Unless
> anyone else has an opinion?
> Also, two nice films on plumbing... Nicky Hamlynís WHITE LIGHT and WATER
> Any other plumbing films? I know a good plumber filmmaker!
> Chris
> On 3/24/09 1:35 AM, "Cari Machet" <email suppressed> wrote:
> your right fred i was sort of personalizing my reaction to your reaction
> i should have wrote what i was thinking about which is that if it had the
> name of brakhage tagged to the film you would have been [sexual reference]
> oh lets just say happy - don't get me wrong i love brakhage - but i question
> whether there is a bias - maybe a bias against 'artists' that dare to pick
> up a cam - maybe
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