Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm

From: Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Mar 03 2009 - 19:32:09 PST


way cool. they are beautifully designed. it's always been my dream
camera, but i have gotten much mileage from my trusty Bolex. the
16mm Beaulieu is still a little pricey for my budget. if you hear of
one at a good price, please inform!

enjoy today...

Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer

www.solislandmediaworks.com
www.artcinematic.blogspot.com
http://cinesthesia.blip.tv

On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Myron Ort wrote:

> Speaking of Beaulieu, when I researched online, I found out that
> there are several workarounds for various battery replacements.
>
> I was able to replace the battery in my 8mm Beaulieu and a nice old
> Luna Pro light meter.
>
> MO
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> don't you love Frameworks?
>> Miriam, you are in the clear. get your money from this guy and
>> save up for the Beaulieu!
>>
>> enjoy today...
>>
>> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
>> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
>>
>> www.solislandmediaworks.com
>> www.artcinematic.blogspot.com
>> http://cinesthesia.blip.tv
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:09 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio wrote:
>>
>>> you are right!?! you see i was sure i was not that naive?!?!
>>> miriam
>>>
>>> Quartz Quarz 2x8S1M USSR 16mm film movie camera, extras
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:54:15 -0500
>>> From: email suppressed
>>> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
>>> To: email suppressed
>>>
>>> In that link you sent out, under "technical description" it says
>>> "film type: standard 16mm." It says 16mm in the subject heading.
>>>
>>> This is an open + shut case of misrepresentation. Get your money
>>> back, or report his ass.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio
>>> <email suppressed> wrote:
>>> hi
>>> i am back. finished class. i agree but i am sure he will repeat
>>> what he originally said in one of his emails that 'it was written
>>> in the technical description'.
>>> we will see. i am sure he will email me tomorrow as he lives in
>>> the Ukraine.
>>>
>>> miriam
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:50:56 -0800
>>> From: email suppressed
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
>>> To: email suppressed
>>>
>>> eBay sellers should give the benefit of the doubt. If not, you
>>> can use the Resolution Center . I am currently involved in
>>> something similar with an item that had a misleading description
>>> with the seller refusing a refund.
>>>
>>> mo
>>>
>>> zeno-okeanos.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:13 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio wrote:
>>>
>>> hey everyone
>>> i agree with everyone and thank you greatly for all your help!
>>> thanks kristie!! i cannot get the my money back. he will not
>>> refund as he says that it is stated in the technical information
>>> that its a 8mm camera. i have no idea what to do because frankly
>>> it does say that but i certainly did not understand it as such.
>>> since it does say 16mm movie camera. i just send him an email
>>> telling him i would like a refund. we will see if he will give it
>>> to me. i highly doubt it as i said.
>>>
>>> i will be back in a while. gotta run to class.
>>> thanks everyone
>>> miriam
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:47:38 -0500
>>> From: email suppressed
>>> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
>>> To: email suppressed
>>>
>>> i agree with these guys, miriam. unless you REALLY want to delve
>>> into a new discipline (double 8mm) and learn all about it,
>>> there's no reason for you to buy something that was
>>> misrepresented in the ad. get your refund and look out for a
>>> nice Bolex, Beaulieau, B&H, even a Canon Scoopic if you should
>>> ever run across one, or any of the other great and inexpensive
>>> cameras out there. but if you just want one good, reliable 16mm
>>> camera, the Krasnogorsk is NOT it. i would guess that the 8mm is
>>> no more reliable than the 16mm model. i think your best bet is
>>> the refund, and you're perfectly entitled to it according to ebay
>>> rules.
>>>
>>> btw, kristie's offer to help you screen potential cameras is very
>>> generous, i'd take her up on that.
>>>
>>> enjoy today...
>>>
>>> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
>>> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
>>>
>>> www.solislandmediaworks.com
>>> www.artcinematic.blogspot.com
>>> http://cinesthesia.blip.tv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>>
>>> Go to the eBay site map, choose "Resolution Center" and follow
>>> the prompts. If you cannot resolve the issue (obtain refund for
>>> misrepresented item) with the seller through direct communication
>>> with seller, then you open a case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:11 AM, k. a.r. wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, After seeing the link, I agree with that guy a couple of
>>> posts down, that camera was misrepresented.
>>> I buy and sell a lot on eBay, and if the sellers misrepresent
>>> something, it is their fault and you are not obligated to buy it.
>>>
>>> Tell him to refund your money.
>>> He wrote 16mm not regular 8.
>>>
>>> His feedback rating is less than perfect, so you could
>>> also tell him that you will give him negative feedback if he
>>> doesn't refund you your money.
>>>
>>> Also tell him that you will file a complaint with paypal if he
>>> doesn't give you back your money.
>>> There are 3 reasons paypal will give you back your money, and
>>> severely misrepresented
>>> merchandise is one of them.
>>> They will investigate it, and that takes time, but you will get
>>> your money back,
>>> and it will freeze his account while he is being investigated.
>>> Many sellers do not want to deal
>>> with this, and will refund your money.
>>>
>>> Also eBay changed the feed back policy, so the seller cannot
>>> leave you negative feedback as revenge.
>>> So don't worry about that....
>>> If he doesn't want to refund your $, you could also contact eBay
>>> and fight it,but paypal is your best first step after him.
>>>
>>> In the future, if you want, send me the link for any cameras you
>>> want to buy, off list, and I will help you
>>> figure out if it is what you want. I help a lot of my friends
>>> with buying high $$$ items from eBay,
>>> so I wouldn't mind helping another filmmaker. And don't worry, I
>>> am probably never going to buy
>>> another film camera, so I wouldn't bid the item out from under you.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Kristie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
>>> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
>>> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
>>> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>>>
>>> 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
>>> - - - Issac Asimov
>>>
>>>
>>>
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