From: James Cole (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Mar 03 2009 - 15:54:15 PST
In that link you sent out, under "technical description" it says "film type:
standard 16mm." It says 16mm in the subject heading.
This is an open + shut case of misrepresentation. Get your money back, or
report his ass.
-James
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio <
email suppressed> wrote:
> hi
> i am back. finished class. i agree but i am sure he will repeat what he
> originally said in one of his emails that 'it was written in the technical
> description'.
> we will see. i am sure he will email me tomorrow as he lives in the
> Ukraine.
>
> miriam
>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:50:56 -0800
> From: email suppressed
>
> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
> To: email suppressed
>
> eBay sellers should give the benefit of the doubt. If not, you can use the
> Resolution Center . I am currently involved in something similar with an
> item that had a misleading description with the seller refusing a refund.
> mo
>
> zeno-okeanos.com
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:13 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio wrote:
>
> hey everyone
> i agree with everyone and thank you greatly for all your help! thanks
> kristie!! i cannot get the my money back. he will not refund as he says that
> it is stated in the technical information that its a 8mm camera. i have no
> idea what to do because frankly it does say that but i certainly did not
> understand it as such. since it does say 16mm movie camera. i just send him
> an email telling him i would like a refund. we will see if he will give it
> to me. i highly doubt it as i said.
>
> i will be back in a while. gotta run to class.
> thanks everyone
> miriam
>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:47:38 -0500
> From: email suppressed
> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
> To: email suppressed
>
> i agree with these guys, miriam. unless you REALLY want to delve into a
> new discipline (double 8mm) and learn all about it, there's no reason for
> you to buy something that was misrepresented in the ad. get your refund and
> look out for a nice Bolex, Beaulieau, B&H, even a Canon Scoopic if you
> should ever run across one, or any of the other great and inexpensive
> cameras out there. but if you just want one good, reliable 16mm camera, the
> Krasnogorsk is NOT it. i would guess that the 8mm is no more reliable than
> the 16mm model. i think your best bet is the refund, and you're perfectly
> entitled to it according to ebay rules.
> btw, kristie's offer to help you screen potential cameras is very generous,
> i'd take her up on that.
>
> enjoy today...
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
>
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>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
> Go to the eBay site map, choose "Resolution Center" and follow the prompts.
> If you cannot resolve the issue (obtain refund for misrepresented item)
> with the seller through direct communication with seller, then you open a
> case.
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:11 AM, k. a.r. wrote:
>
> Yep, After seeing the link, I agree with that guy a couple of posts down,
> that camera was misrepresented.
> I buy and sell a lot on eBay, and if the sellers misrepresent something, it
> is their fault and you are not obligated to buy it.
>
> Tell him to refund your money.
> He wrote 16mm not regular 8.
>
> His feedback rating is less than perfect, so you could
> also tell him that you will give him negative feedback if he doesn't refund
> you your money.
>
> Also tell him that you will file a complaint with paypal if he doesn't give
> you back your money.
> There are 3 reasons paypal will give you back your money, and severely
> misrepresented
> merchandise is one of them.
> They will investigate it, and that takes time, but you will get your money
> back,
> and it will freeze his account while he is being investigated. Many
> sellers do not want to deal
> with this, and will refund your money.
>
> Also eBay changed the feed back policy, so the seller cannot leave you
> negative feedback as revenge.
> So don't worry about that....
> If he doesn't want to refund your $, you could also contact eBay and fight
> it,but paypal is your best first step after him.
>
> In the future, if you want, send me the link for any cameras you want to
> buy, off list, and I will help you
> figure out if it is what you want. I help a lot of my friends with buying
> high $$$ items from eBay,
> so I wouldn't mind helping another filmmaker. And don't worry, I am
> probably never going to buy
> another film camera, so I wouldn't bid the item out from under you.
> Sincerely,
> Kristie
>
>
>
>
> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>
> 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
> - - - Issac Asimov
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