From: Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Feb 02 2009 - 16:15:14 PST
this thread has been amazing. thank you mat for that fantastic list
and thank you marco for posting the question.
i absolutely love the double-band projector idea and am now
determined to hunt one down for myself, perhaps even more than one
for a public installation that i am planning.
now, a couple of questions: anyone have any ideas as to where to
purchase this Bauer beauty or a comparable gem or even where to begin
the search? i have never seen one of these on ebay.
and... how might one get access to a mag recording machine? i have
not used mag since way back when, but would love to work with it
again. this is not something i would necessarily want to buy, but
any suggestions for who might have a mag recorder that i could get to
on the east coast of the u.s. and any considerations when doing the
transfer from digital cd would be awesome. is there a studio that
offers this service where one can just send a cd and get it transferred?
thank you in advance. this list is fabulous!
d
enjoy today...
Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
www.solislandmediaworks.com
www.artcinematic.blogspot.com
http://cinesthesia.blip.tv
On Feb 2, 2009, at 5:43 PM, marco poloni wrote:
> Hello Mat,
> Thanks for the indication. This indeed solves problem one,
> portability. Thanks very much for your offer. I am actually trying
> to gather my own equipment, and I am indeed on the other side of
> the sea, so with time I should be able to locate and revamp one of
> those Bauers. Indeed this is the brand I was thinking about as an
> alternative to Eikis because their motors, Ihear, are more modern
> are easier to regulate.
> Best,
> Marco
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mat fleming
> Sent: Feb 2, 2009 4:47 PM
> To: email suppressed
> Subject: Re: syncing sound on super-16mm
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> Maybe you need a 'Bauer Sonorex P6 Studio' projector they are
> double band and portable. you can see a picture of one herehttp://
> www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/cinelist.html
> I have access to one you'd be welcome to borrow, it has a filed
> gate but not full S16. It is a wonderful machine which will record
> and play just about any combination of mag
> soundtrack. They are really heavy though so it might be better for
> you to try and find one closer to home.
>
> Mat
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Nicky Hamlyn
> <email suppressed> wrote:
> This is an obvious, old-tec solution:
>
> Transfer your sound to 16mm magnetic and use a double-band
> projector. I realise this may not be what you want and there may be
> difficulties in getting hold of the mag transfer services or gear,
> but it will work!
>
> Nicky Hamlyn.
>
>
> On 2 Feb 2009, at 16:25, marco poloni wrote:
>
> Dear Frameworkers,
>
> I am embarking on a technical endeavour which consists of
> attempting to sync super-16mm film with sound at the projection
> stage. As you well know S-16mm is a camera film. It has no space
> for an optical track between the image frames and the sprocket
> holes. I contacted Martin Sawyer in London, who did a good amount
> of research in adding a very fine optical track. He got good
> results, but said it was very difficult to find labs that would
> process this footage. If I am not mistaken, he abandoned this.
>
> I'd like to attempt exploring another route. The idea is first to
> modify an existing 16m projector by widening the gate's aperture to
> the "W"type gate of S-16mm. That's the not-too-difficult part.
> Second, I would have to find someone to crystal-sync the motor via
> an external "master" device that will also pilot the sound of a CD,
> MP3 or solid state player to ensure perfect sync.
>
> I have done quite some research and have some very technical
> questions. I am writing in the hope that someone might provide
> feedback.
>
> 1. It seems that syncing DC motors is fairly easy, whereas syncing
> AC motors would be difficult and costly. A friend recommends using
> a Bauer P8 projector which uses a DC motor. I am a big fan of
> Eiki's and am not ready to swap brands. I was wondering if anyone
> knows whether their drive motors are AC or DC?
>
> 2. More specifically, should this be feasible with an Eiki, does
> anyone have a scanned service manual for an Eiki EX-300SL (or
> EX-2000)with the electric circuitry? (350W xenon lamp)
>
> 3. I have been looking for an Eiki EX-300SL through the usual
> channels (ebay, ...). It is very difficult to find... Much harder
> than the more common SSL's. Does anyone know of a place that could
> have a couple for sale?
>
> Thanks a lot beforehand for your input!
>
> Best,
> Marco
>
>
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