Re: angelic conversations

From: Freya (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jan 11 2009 - 15:30:47 PST

I was under the impression it was only 1fps.
Certainly the garden of luxor shot at 4fps looks much smoother in that way than some of the footage in Angelic conversation.



--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Peter Snowdon <email suppressed> wrote:

> From: Peter Snowdon <email suppressed>
> Subject: angelic conversations
> To: email suppressed
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:08 PM
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez wrote:
> > but hey, i'd really love to argue about whether
> Jarman shot at 3 or 6 fps. any ideas anyone? i'm afraid
> i don't have the film in front of me, nor would it be
> easy to make an educated guess as far as this aspect of the
> work by viewing a youtube version. can anyone here post a
> link to Angelic Conversations?
> >
> In a film incorporating so many different forms of paradox,
> there is also a major financial one. Jarman knew that the
> lower the budget, the greater the personal freedom. So after
> three (Jarman would chuckle at the term)
> "mainstream" films done in 35mm — and with
> Caravaggio long on hold — Jarman went for his trusty
> Super-8 Nizo camera, that he got in the '70s. He'd
> often used it to make short experimental films, including
> some in a type of stop-motion photography where he shot only
> three or six frames per second, and then projected the film
> at a comparably "unnatural" speed. The effect
> resembles a dreamlike, or nightmarish, magic lantern show.
> And so was The Angelic Conversation's unique style born.
> Jarman joked that he did this to make the expensive film
> cartridges last longer — each was good for only two and a
> half minutes — but he clearly had more artistic visions in
> mind too (further proof that you have to read Jarman's
> comments on his own work with more than a few grains salt).
> the youtube links to the 1985 live soundtrack performance
> in turin are not a bad place to start perhaps:
> since jarman claimed that one of the effects was to
> synchronise the frame changes with the viewer's
> heartbeat, i would hope it was 3fps maximum, or even less:)
> peter
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