Re: Dating a perfect film

From: Eli Horwatt (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Sep 04 2008 - 18:51:04 PDT


Hi Mason,

I don't think there's a fixed precedent for this, but I would argue that
once an artwork is appropriated and transformed by an artist, its date
becomes that of its initial appropriation. Though the transformation of a
film into a "perfect film" is one of the most complex and controversial
forms of appropriation, a transformation exists at the level of authorship
and the re-presentation of that film object into a new context. For instance
Duchamp's readymade "Fountain"' is dated to its first failed exhibition,
rather than to the actual date of the urinal's manufacture. I would argue
that this is the most appropriate way to date a perfect film. Hope that
helps!

Eli Horwatt

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Mason Shefa <email suppressed>wrote:

> Quoting William C. Wees:A perfect film is "found footage shown exactly as
> it was found, without any editing or other manipulations of the film's sound
> and images."
>
> Mason S.
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> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:28 PM, k. a.r. wrote:
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> what does perfect mean?
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>
> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
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> > Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:21:49 -0700
> > From: email suppressed
> > Subject: [FRAMEWORKS] Dating a perfect film
> > To: email suppressed
> >
> > Hello!
> > I have a quick question. If a film is "found" and deemed a perfect
> > film, what should it be dated? If one knows the date the film was
> > recorded, would that be the date? Or the date one found the film?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Mason S.
> >
> >
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