From: Chuck Kleinhans (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Aug 20 2008 - 07:51:43 PDT

On Aug 20, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Jim Carlile wrote:
> p.s.--
> how about a model that is based around working, rather than
> organizing, or meeting, or creating an archive, or all the other
> secretarial tasks that many people seem to prefer to the real thing.

What the heck does that mean: "working"?

Jim Carlile is great on attitude and abstract notions. But Jim,
please can you please name one, two, or three current institutions
that meet your rigorous standards? That would sure make it easier to
understand your rhetoric, which seems to be based on slogans, not


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