Re: Remaking experimental films

From: xander!!! (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Aug 01 2008 - 19:55:58 PDT


ben coonley re-made wavelength in 3-d!
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:18:10 -0700
From: email suppressed
Subject: Remaking experimental films
To: email suppressed

Re: Experimental Remakes (& perfection)Owen Land partially remade Wavelength in aparodistic manner in the film we just showed. In fact, he's pastiched a bunch of experimental films.

-----Original Message-----

From: Chen Sheinberg

Sent: Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM

To: email suppressed

Subject: insect films

 

   Dear Frameworks,
   today I lectured about insects in
  experimental cinema and your responses and
   your list of films helped me a
  lot.
   thanks to all of you !
   Chen Sheinberg
   
  Original Message -----
  From:
  David Woods
  To: email suppressed
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:44
  PM
  Subject: Re: Experimental Remakes (&
  perfection)
  

  
  This urge to reify
  the creative process by integrating and highlighting the source material seems
  less homage and more retailing – redeploying the power of the original, with
  implicit added value. (Of course it wouldn’t be retailing if it
  remained in the private space, but the experimentalist generally seems unable
  to work outside the public arena.) As for re-contextualization,
  phoey. I liken this deceptive faux-word to the self-reflexive
  modish verbal oeuvre of the rag-tag “studies lot”. The re- is
  tautological, redundant and, interestingly, absurd, although the
  ‘repetition of meaning’ might, I suppose, be an
  apt trope.
  As for Wavelength
  revisited, someone will get round to it, and sadly, think it’s a neat idea,
  and others, sadly will agree; and so it goes.
   
  Hope you and Jo are
  settling-in OK.
   
  Cheers
  David (“very
  infrequently on Frameworks”) Woods
  THE (The Holcus
  Effect)
   
  
  
  
  
  From:
  Experimental Film Discussion List
  [mailto:email suppressed] On
  Behalf Of Rob Gawthrop
Sent: 31 July 2008 13:27
To:
  email suppressed
Subject: Re: Experimental Remakes (&
  perfection)
   
  There have been experimental
  re-makes of (such perfect) films as Lumiere’s Arroseur arrosé, (Malcolm Le Grice) GA
  Smith’s Miller & the Sweep
  (Jo Millett & myself) and others ....?. Both originals having been
  plagiarised in the distant past.

This re-making or rather
  re-contextualising is quite different to commercial re-making, which in fact
  has a lot more in common with the nineteenth century plagiarists. If
  Wavelength had been highly profitable then a digital re-make -
  wide-screen, using CGI and shot across an expensive and trendy loft
  space - would be the equivalent .

Rob.
        

On 31/7/08 09:52, "Nicky
  Hamlyn" <email suppressed>
  wrote:
  Vanda Carter's film "Moth Fight" is
  a homage/remake on the insect theme.

Available from LUX,

Nicky
  Hamlyn.

On 31 Jul 2008, at 06:31, André Lindahl
  wrote:
  One Way Boogie
  Woogie/27 Years Later by
  Benning.

  On 7/30/08 9:50 PM, "Bryan
  Konefsky" <email suppressed> wrote:
 
>> Subject:
  Re: INSECT FILMS
>
> Hey, let's not forget the
  brilliant (and funny) collab
> between Helen Hill and Courtney
  Egon - "Termite Light."
> Which actually reminds me that I
  might be interested in
> booking experimental redux/remade
  films/videos for
> Experiments in Cinema V4.2 this year (we will
  post our
> call for submissions shortly) - Might anyone
  have
> suggestions for experimental remakes (in addition
  to
> Termite Light and Bill Brown's redux of Kustom
  Kar
> Kommandos)?
> best
>
>
  Bryan Konefsky, Visualiste
> Lecturer, Dept. of Cinematic Arts,
  University of New
> Mexico
> Artistic
  Director, Experiments in Cinema
> Vice President, Basement
  Films
> Advisory Board, Ann Arbor Film Festival
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