insect films

From: Chen Sheinberg (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jul 31 2008 - 12:01:31 PDT


Re: Experimental Remakes (& perfection)
   Dear Frameworks,
   today I lectured about insects in experimental cinema and your responses and
   your list of films helped me a lot.
   thanks to all of you !
   Chen Sheinberg

  Original Message -----
  From: David Woods
  To: email suppressed
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Experimental Remakes (& perfection)

  This urge to reify the creative process by integrating and highlighting the source material seems less homage and more retailing - redeploying the power of the original, with implicit added value. (Of course it wouldn't be retailing if it remained in the private space, but the experimentalist generally seems unable to work outside the public arena.) As for re-contextualization, phoey. I liken this deceptive faux-word to the self-reflexive modish verbal oeuvre of the rag-tag "studies lot". The re- is tautological, redundant and, interestingly, absurd, although the 'repetition of meaning' might, I suppose, be an apt trope.

  As for Wavelength revisited, someone will get round to it, and sadly, think it's a neat idea, and others, sadly will agree; and so it goes.

   

  Hope you and Jo are settling-in OK.

   

  Cheers

  David ("very infrequently on Frameworks") Woods

  THE (The Holcus Effect)

   

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  From: Experimental Film Discussion List [mailto:email suppressed] On Behalf Of Rob Gawthrop
  Sent: 31 July 2008 13:27
  To: email suppressed
  Subject: Re: Experimental Remakes (& perfection)

   

  There have been experimental re-makes of (such perfect) films as Lumiere's Arroseur arrosé, (Malcolm Le Grice) GA Smith's Miller & the Sweep (Jo Millett & myself) and others ....?. Both originals having been plagiarised in the distant past.

  This re-making or rather re-contextualising is quite different to commercial re-making, which in fact has a lot more in common with the nineteenth century plagiarists. If Wavelength had been highly profitable then a digital re-make - wide-screen, using CGI and shot across an expensive and trendy loft space - would be the equivalent .

  Rob.

  On 31/7/08 09:52, "Nicky Hamlyn" <email suppressed> wrote:

  Vanda Carter's film "Moth Fight" is a homage/remake on the insect theme.

  Available from LUX,

  Nicky Hamlyn.

  On 31 Jul 2008, at 06:31, André Lindahl wrote:

  One Way Boogie Woogie/27 Years Later by Benning.

  On 7/30/08 9:50 PM, "Bryan Konefsky" <email suppressed> wrote:
   
>> Subject: Re: INSECT FILMS
>
> Hey, let's not forget the brilliant (and funny) collab
> between Helen Hill and Courtney Egon - "Termite Light."
> Which actually reminds me that I might be interested in
> booking experimental redux/remade films/videos for
> Experiments in Cinema V4.2 this year (we will post our
> call for submissions shortly) - Might anyone have
> suggestions for experimental remakes (in addition to
> Termite Light and Bill Brown's redux of Kustom Kar
> Kommandos)?
> best
>
> Bryan Konefsky, Visualiste
> Lecturer, Dept. of Cinematic Arts, University of New
> Mexico
> Artistic Director, Experiments in Cinema
> Vice President, Basement Films
> Advisory Board, Ann Arbor Film Festival
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