Re: looking for super-8 camera in NYC

From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Jul 15 2008 - 19:50:20 PDT

I think both formats have their strengths. What I like about R8 had
to do with its being able to go through a 16mm camera since it is
"double 8"=16mm with an extra set of sprocket holes. (interesting
experiments can be done with the quadrants). Also the casual style
that comes about with a simple camera that fits in your pocket and is
easy to use with one hand like those old B&H Filmos you found at the
flea market for $5. Years ago when I had one of those fabulous
Bolex Rx8 I was able to shoot 6+6=12 minutes of film with a single
100 foot roll (=200' R8) could really get into something while
not worrying about changing rolls so often. Some filmmakers at that
time converted these cameras to take 100' rolls of double S8. Can you
even get that type of perforated stock anymore?

Myron Ort

On Jul 15, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Jim Carlile wrote:

> In a message dated 7/15/2008 5:26:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> email suppressed writes:
> I've been hesitating to respond to this post since I'm afraid I'll
> just get into rant mode, so let me say calmly: friends don't let
> friends buy super-8 cameras, they encourage them to buy regular-8
> cameras. Super 8 SUCKS!
> No doubt R8 is great and underrated. But most of the advantages you
> give to R8 can be attained just as easily by super 8. Some things--
> like filtration-- are actually harder in R8 because the filter
> sizes for those lenses are small and odd sized (like series IV)-
> and expensive to find used and battered, impossible to find new.
> What problems did you have with super 8? I agree, the little
> Bolexes are incredibly cool and well made. But if you like spool
> feed, why not go up to 16mm and a little Bell and Howell 240?
> One thing about R8 projectors-- they are older and light output
> isn't as good. Most are hot-lamped and expensive to run.
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