From: Freya (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jun 12 2008 - 14:13:02 PDT
It is good news!
Maybe it means that word got around and that there
were people thinking and genuinely listening!
Maybe it was just one of those silly jokes that you
suddenly realise isn't really all that funny and is a
bit offensive to boot when you look at it again.
I hope they will think about positive ways to express
their views about things like creative commons
(perhaps a page about it) and to be supportive of
artists and not to view them as the enemy. Perhaps
when an artist contacts them to have their work
removed it is a good time to get into a dialogue with
the artist as to whether they might be happy to submit
something else to ubuweb or to work together in some
Perhaps there could even be 2 ubu sections, the
dungeon where all the dodgy bootlegs live until a
request for removal, and a garden of ubu, where stuff
can live for which there is permission for use.
Perhaps ubu could have a page for ubu stars, artists
who have tried to work with ubu like Pip Chodorov has.
Whatever happens, I hope it will be more positive
stuff and not attacking people for their different
I think you summed up my feelings about it too Chris,
it really did seem like some strange kind of selfish
I'm really glad it is gone and hope it will be
replaced by good and positive things whatever they
I think it is a good sign, if the people there are
listening to criticism and considering it and thinking
Fingers crossed that a more positive ubu may be on its
--- Chris Kennedy <email suppressed> wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:47:33 +0100
> > From: Jorge Amaro <email suppressed>
> > Subject: Re: ubu unendlich
> > I believe that the hall of shame was removed.
> I noticed that, too. And for me, that ends a lot of
> the debate.
> You can put something up, the artist can say no, and
> you don't have to sulk
> about it. The hall of shame made ubu seem more about
> possessiveness rather
> than sharing, in a consumerist robin hood sort of
> Good news.
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at
> <email suppressed>.
For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.