Super 8 Neg

From: Ken Paul Rosenthal (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Jun 03 2008 - 09:15:45 PDT


Should you choose to go straight to video with your super 8 neg (and reversal), I HIGHLY recommend using Flying Spot in Seattle. Just had 42 cartridges processed by the wonderful folks at Alpha Cine, who sent it over to Eric Rosen at Fying Spot. He made me compressed and uncompressed HD files at 'pro res' for editing in FCP 6, straight to my hard drives.

Ken

http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
http://www.crookedbeauty.com

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> 1. The Onion: MTV Movie Awards Snubs Jonas Mekas Yet Again
> 2. Printing super 8mm film... (5)
> 3. large Super8 event in Berlin
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> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:27:43 -0700
> From: Matthew Geiger <email suppressed>
> Subject: Printing super 8mm film...
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> Hello everyone-
> I recently shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on the planet that I can get a positive print made?
> Chances are looking pretty slim as my research has turned up pretty much nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was discontinued in the early 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of possible workarounds/ jury-rigs etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks
> Matt Geiger
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> Hello everyone-<br>&nbsp; I recently shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on the planet that I can get a positive print made?<br>Chances are looking pretty slim as my research has turned up pretty much nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was discontinued in the early 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of possible workarounds/ jury-rigs etc. would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>thanks<br>Matt Geiger<br>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:07:12 -0700
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Flores-Guti=E9rrez=2C_Beatriz?= <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Printing super 8mm film...
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> Alpha Cine in Seattle does super 8, maybe they can give you more leads =
> too
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> Beatriz Flores Guti=E9rrez
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Experimental Film Discussion List on behalf of Matthew Geiger
> Sent: Mon 6/2/2008 8:27 PM
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> Subject: Printing super 8mm film...
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> Hello everyone-
> I recently shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on =
> the planet that I can get a positive print made?
> Chances are looking pretty slim as my research has turned up pretty much =
> nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was discontinued in the early =
> 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of possible workarounds/ jury-rigs =
> etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks
> Matt Geiger
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>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:12:17 -0700
> From: Ryan Marino <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Printing super 8mm film...
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> I think printing super8 like you said is pretty much impossible. Your sole option seems to be to blow your super8 up to 16mm and work with it from there.
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> -Ryan
> --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Matthew Geiger &lt;email suppressed&gt; wrote:
> From: Matthew Geiger &lt;email suppressed&gt;
> Subject: Printing super 8mm film...
> To: email suppressed
> Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 11:27 PM
>
> Hello everyone-
> &nbsp; I recently shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on the planet that I can get a positive print made?
> Chances are looking pretty slim as my research has turned up pretty much nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was discontinued in the early 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of possible workarounds/ jury-rigs etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks
> Matt Geiger
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> <table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' background='none' style='font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);width:100%;'><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'>I think printing super8 like you said is pretty much impossible. Your sole option seems to be to blow your super8 up to 16mm and work with it from there. <br><br><br><br>-Ryan<br>--- On <b>Mon, 6/2/08, Matthew Geiger <i>&lt;email suppressed<br>Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 11:27 PM<br><br><div id="yiv112157196">Hello everyone-<br>&nbsp; I recently shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on the planet that I can get a positive print made?<br>Chances are looking
> pretty slim as my research has turned up pretty much nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was discontinued in the early 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of possible workarounds/ jury-rigs etc. would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>thanks<br>Matt Geiger<br>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:07:59 -0400
> From: Stephen Kent Jusick <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Printing super 8mm film...
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> Don't let anyone steer you wrong!
>
> Andec Filmtechnik in Berlin will make Super8 prints from S8 negative.
>
> I had a test roll of 7218 done in February, and they just printed 20
> more for me last week.
> It's not cheap, you pay by the meter, and there's a minimum.
> The cost is 1.50 euro /meter (1.25 euros / meter for 150m or more)
> for printing,
> and there's a 2.50 euro surcharge for each 15m roll printed from
> negative that's already been developed elsewhere, but I found it
> cheaper to develop in the USA and send to Berlin for printing.
>
> Check out the Andec page here:
> http://www.andecfilm.de/en/e_s8_neg_pos.htm
>
> Ludwig Draser from Andec answered all my questions in advance, so you
> should email him.
> I'm very happy with this rare service!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Stephen Kent Jusick
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> <div>Don't let anyone steer you wrong!</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>Andec Filmtechnik in Berlin will make Super8 prints from S8
> negative.</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>I had a test roll of 7218 done in February, and they just printed
> 20 more for me last week.</div>
> <div>It's not cheap, you pay by the meter, and there's a
> minimum.</div>
> <div>The cost is 1.50 euro /meter (1.25 euros / meter for 150m or
> more) for printing,</div>
> <div>and there's a 2.50 euro surcharge for each 15m roll printed&nbsp;
> from negative that's already been developed elsewhere, but I found it
> cheaper to develop in the USA and send to Berlin for printing.</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>Check out the Andec page here:</div>
> <div><font face="Arial"
> color="#000000">http://www.andecfilm.de/en/e_s8_neg_pos.htm></div
> >
> <div><br></div>
> <div>Ludwig Draser from Andec answered all my questions in advance, so
> you should email him.</div>
> <div>I'm very happy with this rare service!</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>Good luck!</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>Stephen Kent Jusick</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><br></div>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:12:23 -0400
> From: Stephen Kent Jusick <email suppressed>
> Subject: large Super8 event in Berlin
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> If anyone can go to this, I'd love to hear a report!
> SKJ
>
>
> June 7- July 6, 2008
>
> Take more than 100 Eumig 607 and 610 projectors, put them in the 1000
> sq metre cellar of a former brewery, add amateur film loops spanning
> every decade and major event from 1930 to now and you've got yourself
> the world's biggest Super 8 screening.
>
> "100x Berlin" is exactly that.
>
> Open from 2pm to 10pm daily ('til midnight on Fridays and Saturdays
> for screenings with musical accompaniment) at the Prenzlauer Berg
> Brewery from June 7th to July 6th, this incredible feat of small film
> screening paints a fascinating history of Berlin, from the war, the
> wall, the city's zoo right through to family Christmas's, 8mm has
> captured the ups and downs of an ever changing city.
>
> Hope to see you in Berlin!
>
> Click onsuper8 webpage
>
http://onsuper8.blogspot.com/2008/05/100-and-counting-in-berlin.html
> for the poster for full details (in English) or visit
> http://www.100xBerlin.de for more.
>
>
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> <div>If anyone can go to this, I'd love to hear a report!</div>
> <div>SKJ</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><b>June 7- July 6,
> 2008</b></font></div>
> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><b>Take more than 100 Eumig
> 607 and 610 projectors, put them in the 1000 sq metre cellar of a
> former brewery, add amateur film loops spanning every decade and major
> event from 1930 to now and you've got yourself the world's biggest
> Super 8 screening.<br>
> <br>
> &quot;100x Berlin&quot; is exactly that.<br>
> <br>
> Open from 2pm to 10pm daily ('til midnight on Fridays and Saturdays
> for screenings with musical accompaniment) at the Prenzlauer Berg
> Brewery from June 7th to July 6th, this incredible feat of small film
> screening paints a fascinating history of Berlin, from the war, the
> wall, the city's zoo right through to family Christmas's, 8mm has
> captured the ups and downs of an ever changing city.<br>
> <br>
> Hope to see you in Berlin!</b></font><br>
> </div>
> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><b>Click onsuper8
> webpage</b></font></div>
> <div><font face="Arial"
> color="#000000"
> >http://onsuper8.blogspot.com/2008/05/100-and-counting-in-berlin.html
> ></div>
> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><b>for the poster for full
> details (in English) or visit
http://www.100xBerlin.de for
> more.</b></font></div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><br></div>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:50:14 -0700
> From: "D. Mark Andrews" <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Printing super 8mm film...
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> Matt,
>
> I was waiting for folks with more experience to jump in here, but since they
> haven't replied yet I'll give this a shot. According to my notes, the ONLY
> place in the world that offers this service is a lab in Germany
> [http://www.andecfilm.de/]. I have no personal experience with them, but I
> found a reference that I copied into my notes saying that they can print neg
> to pos in COLOR. I verified this on their site this morning.
>
> Another option, which you probably already know, but in case you don't, is
> that most everyone shooting negative stock use it as the first stop to
> telecine. With this said, you theoretically could print to telecine and use
> Alpha Cine Lab [http://www.alphacine.com/] to print telecine to film which
> is one of the specialized services they offer.
>
> I would love to hear how you resolve this problem.
>
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Geiger [mailto:email suppressed]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:28 PM
> To: email suppressed
> Subject: Printing super 8mm film...
>
>
> Hello everyone-
> I recently shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on the
> planet that I can get a positive print made?
> Chances are looking pretty slim as my research has turned up pretty much
> nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was discontinued in the early
> 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of possible workarounds/ jury-rigs
> etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks
> Matt Geiger
>
> __________________________________________________________________ For
> info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> [http://www.andecfilm.de/]. I=20
> have no personal experience with them, but I found a reference that I =
> copied=20
> into my notes saying that they can print neg to pos in COLOR. I verified =
> this on=20
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> size=3D2>Another option, which you probably already know, but in case =
> you don't,=20
> is that most everyone shooting negative stock use it as the first stop =
> to=20
> telecine. With this said, you theoretically could print to telecine and =
> use=20
> Alpha Cine Lab [http://www.alphacine.com/] to print telecine to film =
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> would love to hear how you resolve this problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Matthew Geiger=20
> [mailto:email suppressed]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, =
> 2008=20
> 8:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> email suppressed<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
> Printing=20
> super 8mm film...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hello everyone-<BR>&nbsp; I =
> recently=20
> shot some super 8mm negative. Is there anyplace (lab) on the planet =
> that I can=20
> get a positive print made?<BR>Chances are looking pretty slim as my =
> research=20
> has turned up pretty much nothing, and I know that s8 printstock was=20
> discontinued in the early 2000's -- but any advice, suggestions of =
> possible=20
> workarounds/ jury-rigs etc. would be greatly=20
> appreciated.<BR><BR>thanks<BR>Matt Geiger<BR>
> <P>__________________________________________________________________ =
> For info=20
> on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at &lt;email suppressed&gt;.=20
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