Re: Plus X reversal

From: Nicky Hamlyn (email suppressed)
Date: Fri May 02 2008 - 00:18:14 PDT


Presumably the contrast would be very high. The reason we're
considering this is because the original post was from someone who
wanted a print from some Plus X original. I don't think anyone's
proposing it as an alternative to the neg-pos route,

Nicky Hamlyn.

On 1 May 2008, at 22:52, Jim Carlile wrote:

> I think what these labs are doing is using Plus-X for the reversal
> dupes.
>
> Reversing positive stock with that 'negative' printed image on it
> from a reversal original is an interesting idea, but I suspect the
> quality would be uncertain and would take a lot of experimentation.
> If it were easy to do Kodak would already have a manual on it
> because that would be a nice replacement idea for reversal B/W
> print stock. Maybe somebody is but I've never heard about it.
>
> What I'm confused about is why anyone would want to 'reverse'
> camera reversal, if negative film is already available...
>
>
> In a message dated 5/1/2008 2:10:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> email suppressed writes:
> In the UK you can still buy B&W reversal processing kits, and Kodak
> still produce a recipe for DIYers (you have to bulk buy and mix the
> chemicals). Is there any reason why these could not be used to cross-
> process B&W positive print stock?
>
> Nicky Hamlyn.
>
> On 1 May 2008, at 21:20, Jeff Kreines wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Mark Toscano wrote:
> >
> >> If someone really wanted a reversal workprint, why
> >> couldn't it just be printed to more plus-x?
> >
> > In addition to the other problems, you can't use a safelight with
> > it -- unlike other print stocks.
> >
> > I wonder if there's a process that can reverse B&W positive stock,
> > akin to the process used to make color slop prints from color
> > workprint (in 35mm) on Agfa print stocks. (Also called dirty
> > dupes, no longer needed in this age of video projection at mix
> > houses.)
> >
> > We could build a simple film recorder to go with our scanners for
> > making "reversal" prints -- you'd scan the original and "print" to
> > B&W or color positive stock. Might go well with our new desktop
> > scanners that we're building for schools... if anyone still needs
> > 16mm prints.
> >
> > Jeff "my partner does -- she still uses Steenbecks" Kreines
> >
> >
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