Re: Capturing New York's distinctive thrum

From: Adam Hyman (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Oct 29 2007 - 16:37:06 PDT

But Jim, youıre forgetting one thing. Fairly large groups, even indies,
always take more than 30 minutes, and always have had to get permits. I
donıt think it will matter to those sort of indie feature shoots at all.
Our interest was the independent (lone or pair) experimental or doc
filmmaker, and the revised rules are indeed better for us. (Yes, I am being
presumptive in using ³Our² and ³us² but I donıt think Iım that wrong).
And I donıt believe it was clear that solo workers were free to work without
a permit under the old proposal.


On 10/29/07 12:26 AM, "Jim Carlile" <email suppressed> wrote:

> Nobody's hostile-- I'm just baffled by the fact that people in NY think that
> they're getting a good deal now. With the original proposed rules, a fairly
> sizeable group got a free 30 minutes to shoot anything they wanted to.
> But now, if you have a truck or cables or any kind of obstruction, you need to
> get a permit as well as insurance-- for ANY length of time. How's that good?--
> smaller independents had a better deal with the old proposal.
> And solo workers never needed permits, either, so why all the fuss from them?
> They were never impacted by the old proposal.
> Why aren't any of you asking the city why they took away the 30 minute-freebie
> time period for more involved shoots?
> They relaxed the insurance requirement (kind of) and made the permits free,
> but the bigger shoots are getting more red tape than under the original
> proposal. That's something to cheer about?
> In a message dated 10/28/2007 10:56:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> email suppressed writes:
>> In any public forum, useful utterances are often likely to be met by the
>> odd idiosyncratic angry response. But to let these solitary critiques lead
>> to a silencing of public utterance would be tragic. I have no idea why Jim
>> Carlile feels the need to express his views on NYCs regulations in such a
>> hostile way -- the notion that the experimental filmmakers have now fucked
>> things up for the shoestring indie makers is a straw man argument if ever
>> I've heard one. But I don't see why anyone on FRAMEWORKS should take any
>> notice of Carlile's bile at all at this point. Apologies Sam, but by
>> showing the rant affected you, you may have encouraged more of same.
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