From: Bernard Roddy (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Oct 24 2007 - 13:32:40 PDT
Is Michael serious? Silly?
We should have a call for essays we would like to see written. Fantasy titles.
If I try to think of reading on experimental film, what comes to mind - however inappropriate - is an essay by Mary Ann Doane called "The Object of Theory" and published in a book edited by Ivone Margulies called RITES OF REALISM ('02).
Doane writes of the phenomenon of cinephilia, connecting Barthes' notion of the punctum to Willemen's writing on the French variant (appearing first the 20s and then the '60s, I think), and tying these to the interest in the real found in Kracauer's THEORY OF FILM. The idea is that all these writers were fascinated by a kind of excess in the image - an unplanned moment, an accident that is somehow more real, an expression of a kind of utopian longing, for a moment that escapes the regimentation and measurement of life.
But she says Lumiere was all about demonstrating how even the contingent can be captured. She compares cinema to the rise of statistics and says both are involved in "making the contingent legible."
It appears Ken Jacob's has a film called CAPITALISM: CHILD LABOR ('06). I've now seen one of his films (with eyeglasses that did not function, or eyes that were not amenable, it doesn't matter which). I picture this new film breaking down the movements of a child working in a textile mill. And at brief moments I imagine seeing something that is NOT mechanical, that cannot be described verbally. You can't theorize or generalize, you can't systematize such things! Jacob's program notes imagine a rescue by the bosses - "Boys, we got a war for you."
john porter <email suppressed> wrote:
--- Michael Paré
> Oh well, what kind of silly-billys sit around a
> table in person
> discussing experimental film topics with each other
Silly-billys like me who intended to stay over in
Montreal an extra night just to attend your discussion
on Sunday. I don't think it's silly, not being able to
pay an extra $35 for the discussion.
Are you - the organizer - implying that everyone at
your discussion is silly?!
> On 10/24/07, john porter
> > > Hi John. Hope this clears everything up:
> > > http://experimentalcinema.com/2007_pass.htm
> > Hi Michael,
> > Yes thanks, it makes clear that your pricing
> system is
> > confusing. All 3 screenings are $15 total. The
> > is an extra $5, but the Reception & Discussion are
> > extra $35 total!
> > It's already costing me more for travel to
> > because I learned of TIE Montreal so late,
> compared to
> > Montevideo.
> > Thankfully I learned by today that for my whole
> > to be worthwhile, I have to invest an additional
> > I can still cancel my travel reservations today
> > forfeiting any money.
> > I admit that $15 for everything sounded too good
> to be
> > true, but I was misled by a lack of specific
> > information until it was almost too late.
> > John.
> > > On 10/23/07, john porter
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm confused again!
> > > >
> > > > > TIE-2007 Festival Passes are available
> > > now:
> > > >
> > > > For $55? I was told:
> > > > > > $15 for all the 3 programs
> > > > Thanks, John.
> > John Porter, Toronto, Canada
> > http://www.super8porter.ca/
> > email suppressed
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