From: jason livingston (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Oct 09 2007 - 16:17:36 PDT
Hello DB and others
Radical filmmaking -- or radical anything -- would seem to be specific to a
historical moment (particular, of that moment) and also have to be always
consistent in the following manner: constituting a break from the styles AND
powers-that-be. What's unclear to me is whether a once-radical film can
retain its radicality. Perhaps so. I'd love to see that list!
For now, here's a handful, in no order, and with no claims to long-lasting
radical effect (though I've made some effort to nominate candidates for such
The Flicker, Tony Conrad
Unsere Afr., Peter Kubelka
Shoah, C. Lanzmann
(incomplete gestures toward films about class analysis and films that stage
meaningful encounters with individuals, always needed, rarely seen)
and, just to get the ball rolling, NOT Flaming Creatures!
Often a claim is made that serious explorations of duration always pose
radical questions about viewing, experience and consumption. What do you
all think? Me, I'm a fence-sitter on that one...
>From: db <email suppressed>
>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>To: email suppressed
>Subject: seeking recommendations
>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:20:10 -0700
>I was chatting with a friend today and we started discussing the words
>"radical" and "filmmaking" within the same sentence. Got me thinking about
>a lot of films that would, for me, fit into such a genre (for lack of a
>My dictionary describes genre as:
>a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature,
>characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter
>Such a definition seems rather anti-radical to me, so I'd like to toss out
>a call for recommendations of films that, to members of this list, would
>be considered radical.
>I'd rather not provide examples that have crossed my mind as I'd prefer to
>receive suggestions based upon unmediated (unguided?) ideas of what
>constitutes radical filmmaking.
>If anyone has suggestions please send them along, on or off-list.
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