Re: protest nyc's proposed film and photo law

From: Jim Carlile (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Aug 04 2007 - 17:00:14 PDT

>It hardly seems unreasonable to me to have to inform authorities if
>you are going to have a crew of 5 and their equipment and 3 actors in
>a public location for 2 hours. Especially if you are taking up
>sidewalk, plaza, or park space. It actually seems like common sense
>to do so, so they know what you are doing. Just as you might notify
>and get the agreement in advance of a merchant if you were going to
>be filming in front of their store. Where I teach we work we expect
>students to notify the police of what's going on (a result in part of
>a incident some years back when students were filming a chase
>sequence with characters running around with plastic, but realistic,
>toy guns and people in the neighborhood only saw people with guns and
>called the police who responded with weapons drawn).

I agree, but you're hardly going to get anyone here to. Most posters think
they should be able to do anything in public with no rules--- and they're
going to be mighty disappointed when rules still exist.
Actually, about the free speech issue-- one of the things opponents and the
ACLU are being disingenuous about is that they are ignoring the provisions
that allow individuals to do anything they want to. The rules apply to groups,
and only after a certain length of time-- a great deal you're not going to
find anywhere else.
Filming could easily be seen to be 'speech,' but this right can be
constrained in a public setting by other factors-- health and safety, for one. It's
not a speech issue, per se, but a right of assembly one, which courts say can
be regulated for good cause...
A few years ago students at Valley College in L.A. got into big trouble--
they were filming an assigned public service message, and when they showed up as
 gang members one night in some alley in North Hollywood, all hell broke
loose. Neighbors freaked, police rounded them all up, and quite a complication
ensued. Point? Get permits. If you are refused, that's another issue...then the
free speech factors kick in.

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