Re: protest nyc's proposed film and photo law Thurs Aug 2 Union Sq

From: Doug (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Aug 02 2007 - 03:38:19 PDT

On 8/1/07 10:13 PM, "Jim Carlile" <email suppressed> wrote:

> I don't know of any other city that would allow this, for ANY length of time.
    I don't know how else to put this, but so what?
    You're not saying that this is proof it's the right thing to do, are
you? You keep saying it's better than other cities, but what if it's
basically the wrong thing to do and everyone does it? That happens, right?

>A half hour is a lot of time to do things.
    How did you pick a half hour? When a person walks by you, they don't
care if you've been there five minutes or five hours.
    Maybe you don't make film yourself so you don't know that it can take a
long time to do something right. If you do know, why a half hour?
    I'm just not getting the reasonableness of a time limit, EXCEPT if
you're keeping others from sharing the public space.

    I totally agree with you about tying things up, as I wrote earlier. If
you're keeping other people from using the space, that may call for some
kind of negotiation, some understanding, or in an extremity of conflicting
uses, some kind of law.
    Can you separate obstruction from the other issue of the time limit?

>In regards to L.A., the reason why they are strict has nothing to do
>with disrespect towards independents or artists. The reason is simple:
>without permits, every studio in town would be out there every day filming
>with impunity.
    I don't have the same faith you have in the motives of the LA
government. But you're right, the issue of preventing others from using the
shared space has to be addressed.


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