From: Andy Ditzler (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Mar 16 2007 - 10:04:18 PDT
At Eyedrum, we just had a three-week film loop installation by Lynn Kirby. She did have the print coated, and I believe she referred to it as "3M coating." I'd estimate that over the course of the show it traveled through the projector between 100 and 200 times, with no breaks and only a little sprocket damage. I'm pretty sure the coating was a big help in that.
It was a forty-second loop, running through the projector plus four small reels suspended from the ceiling. Eventually we took out one of the reels, which gave it a little more slack and that helped a lot in terms of keeping it running.
I'll try to find out the details of the coating and post them here, along with a link to pictures and video of the installation.
>From: jennifer fieber <email suppressed>
>Sent: Mar 16, 2007 11:35 AM
>To: email suppressed
>Subject: Re: building a film loop
>If you have a small budget, these loopers work well and are designed to fit
>contactperson Roos & Ruud Molleman
>1018 AD Amsterdam
>phone: +31 (0)20 6226353
>fax: +31 (0)20 6226353
>The teflon is so the print doesn't scratch as fast. It's not totally
>necessary, but helps a little. I haven't found a place in US in awhile to
>do it. There's also something called Film Guard - see film-tech.com--that
>works but you have to use it sparingly near tape splices as it will dissolve
>them. It works great to remove base scratches but isn't exaclty archival.
>>From: Sannsussi Lovetemple <email suppressed>
>>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>>To: email suppressed
>>Subject: Re: building a film loop
>>Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:04 -0500
>>i'm about to do the same thing.
>>i did it years ago hanging reels from the ceiling to guide the film -
>>zigzagging in back and forth I connected the loop once it was strung.- a 4
>>minute loop. thankfully it was a big room.
>>i'm curious about this teflon business. would you mind sending any tips my
>>i'd be hugely appreciative - i'm trying to convince a museum that its a
>>worthy endeavor - fuck video projectors!
>>>From: heather trawick <email suppressed>
>>>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>>>To: email suppressed
>>>Subject: building a film loop
>>>Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:55:16 +0000
>>>I am trying to help a friend build a minute and a half 16mm film loop for
>>>an upcoming installation. Forgive me as I don't really know the technical
>>>jargon to well, and am a first timer at building one of these. We were
>>>thinking of builing one of the loops that has a hortizontal disc on the
>>>top... any suggestions or tips in making one of these? It has also been
>>>suggested that we coat the film with teflon. Has anyone out there done
>>>this? if so any suggestions as to purchasing it. we are located in
>>>Please feel free to e mail me off list as well, email suppressed
>>>thanks for any help..
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