From: Ken Paul Rosenthal (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Mar 08 2007 - 18:29:58 PST
Rear Projection Material
My favorite rear projection material, whether for re-photography or
performance, is drafting velum. From the materials I've experimented with,
it permits the brightest image with the least amount of surface texture.
However, the widest rolls I've seen are about 5 feet, and seaming would most
likely leave a line, and not remain intact if you were to stretch it around
a frame. I've worked with the 'proper' rolled cloth and didn't like the
yellowish cast it gave the image. But this was many years ago, and perhaps
the material has improved. Also, I was projecting Super 8 images and perhaps
a more intense beam of light would allow better color rendition.
A number of years ago, I saw a silt perfomance on a hugh rear-projection
screen up in the Marin Headlands. They projected with Super 8m, so you may
try to contact Keith Evans (email suppressed) and ask him what they used.
Ken
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Subject: FRAMEWORKS Digest - 8 Mar 2007 - Special issue (#2007-148)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:36:42 -0500
There are 9 messages totalling 506 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Science fiction / experimental film
2. Oppositional and Stigmatized Cinema in SF
3. Vancouver event and more (2)
4. Rear Screen projection materials? (2)
5. super 8 shutter speed (3)
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:24:16 -0500
From: Andy Ditzler <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: Science fiction / experimental film
<HEAD><TITLE>Re: Science fiction / experimental film</TITLE>
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<BODY>Ed,<BR><BR>
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ilm neither looks nor feels like science fiction to me, but Warhol's Space =
has a Ronald Tavel script which is clearly is based on =
science fiction - at least from the snippets which can be identified as bei=
ng from the script (as opposed to the unscripted events which take over the=
film). <BR></DIV>
<DIV>Andy Ditzler<BR></DIV>
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0ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Ed Halter <(address suppressed)=
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mes Fotopoulos: The Nest<BR>And...<BR><BR>Sam Wells =E2=80=93 Wired Angel (=
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mental Film Discussion List <email suppressed><BR><B>Date:=
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ored Ian Hugo's "Bells Of Atlantis" <BR><BR>-Sam<BR><BR><BR>__________=
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:08:50 -0800
From: Caroline Savage <email suppressed>
Subject: Oppositional and Stigmatized Cinema in SF
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On this Sunday, March 11 at 7:30 at Yerba Buena Center (YBCA) in San
Francisco, in the Oppositional and Stigmatized Cinema series: Cinema of
Shock, San Francisco Cinematheque will be presenting a rare screening
of Emperor
Tomato Ketchup by Shuji Terayama. Also screening are 16/67: September
20th-Gunter Brus by Kurt Kren; Mommy, Mommy, Where's My Brain by Jon
Moritsugu; Remote, Remote by Valie Export, Zock-Exercises by Otto Muehl, and
The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes by Stan Brakhage. All the works
screening are 16mm films.
$8 general admission, $6 members
best, Caroline
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<br>On this Sunday, March 11 at 7:30 at Yerba Buena Center (YBCA) in San
Francisco, in the <span style="font-weight: bold;">Oppositional and
Stigmatized Cinema series: Cinema of Shock</span>, San Francisco
Cinematheque will be presenting a rare screening of
<span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Emperor Tomato Ketchup
</span>by Shuji Terayama. Also screening are <span style="font-weight: bold;
font-style: italic;">16/67: September 20th-Gunter Brus</span> by Kurt Kren;
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Mommy, Mommy, Where's
My Brain</span> by Jon Moritsugu; <span style="font-weight: bold;
font-style: italic;">Remote, Remote</span> by Valie Export, <span
style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">
Zock-Exercises<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-weight:
bold;"> </span></span></span> by Otto Muehl, and <span style="font-weight:
bold;"></span><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">The Act
of Seeing With One's Own Eyes
</span> by Stan Brakhage. All the works screening are 16mm films. <br>$8
general admission, $6 members<br><div><span class="gmail_quote"><br>best,
Caroline<br></span></div>
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:15:47 -0500
From: amanda christie <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: Vancouver event and more
hey flick et al....
we have also organized another screening of ben
russell's films the night before (friday march 23)
venue tba
and he is giving an artist talk at the emily carr
institute of art in the afternoon of that friday.
so that's:
friday afternoon: artist talk at emily carr institute
of art
friday evening: noise hippies screening at venue tba
saturday evening: mythology show at cineworks
(i mentioned all three of these ben russell events in
my original response to flick's comment on the
vancouver film scene last month)
amanda dawn christie
vancouver, bc (for now)
> **CINEWORKS NEWS
>
> The Mythology Show - a Cinematic Salon with Ben
> Donoghue and Ben Russel.
>
> Time: 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm
> Saturday, March 24th, 2007
> Cost: Free
> Location: Cineworks Studio, 1131 Howe Street; back
> lane entrance
>
> Steeped in American folklore, psychiatric techniques
> of the early
> 20th century, chaos theory, mask rituals, and
> techniques of
> synaesthesia, these five 16mm films propose an
> alternate mythos for
> the world in which we reside. Ben Russel has
> brought with him
> Creation Myths and First Contact Myths, Giant Stone
> Head Myths and
> Eternally Bloody Cowboy Myths, as well as what may
> very well be the
> only 16mm structural Western ever made...
>
> FEATURING: Black and White Trypps Number One (6:30,
> 16mm, silent,
> 2005), Daume (7:00, 16mm, 2000), Terra Incognita
> (10:00, 16mm, 2002),
> Black and White Trypps Number Two (8:30, 16mm,
> silent, 2006), The
> Twenty-One Lives of Billy the Kid (55:00, 16mm,
> 2005)
> TRT 87:00
>
> Ben Donoghue moderates the question and answer
> period following the
> screenings.
>
> For more information, please consult
> www.cineworks.ca or
> contact Colleen Langford at: email suppressed
> OR 604.685.3841
>
>
>
> * FLICK's WEBSITE:
> http://www.flickharrison.com
> * MYSPACE:
> http://myspace.com/flickharrison
> * BLOG / NEWS:
> http://zeroforconduct.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
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> <email suppressed>.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:31:53 -0500
From: Pablo de Ocampo <email suppressed>
Subject: Rear Screen projection materials?
Anyone have a contact or good source for rear-screen projection material? Or
something that could work well in lieu of actual rear-screen projection
material?
I am looking for a rather large size (6' x 16' give or take a few inches),
so rolls of matte acetate and such aren't really big enough as I need one
solid piece.
Thanks,
Pablo
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:51:44 -0800
From: Adam Hyman <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: Vancouver event and more
Ben will be screening the Mythology show at Los Angeles Filmforum as well,
on Sunday April 1 at 7 pm.
Best,
-- Adam Hyman Los Angeles Filmforum email suppressed email suppressed Www.lafilmforum.org On 3/8/07 2:15 PM, "amanda christie" <email suppressed> wrote: > hey flick et al.... > > we have also organized another screening of ben > russell's films the night before (friday march 23) > venue tba > > and he is giving an artist talk at the emily carr > institute of art in the afternoon of that friday. > > so that's: > friday afternoon: artist talk at emily carr institute > of art > friday evening: noise hippies screening at venue tba > saturday evening: mythology show at cineworks > > (i mentioned all three of these ben russell events in > my original response to flick's comment on the > vancouver film scene last month) > > amanda dawn christie > vancouver, bc (for now) > > > > >> **CINEWORKS NEWS >> >> The Mythology Show - a Cinematic Salon with Ben >> Donoghue and Ben Russel. >> >> Time: 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm >> Saturday, March 24th, 2007 >> Cost: Free >> Location: Cineworks Studio, 1131 Howe Street; back >> lane entrance >> >> Steeped in American folklore, psychiatric techniques >> of the early >> 20th century, chaos theory, mask rituals, and >> techniques of >> synaesthesia, these five 16mm films propose an >> alternate mythos for >> the world in which we reside. Ben Russel has >> brought with him >> Creation Myths and First Contact Myths, Giant Stone >> Head Myths and >> Eternally Bloody Cowboy Myths, as well as what may >> very well be the >> only 16mm structural Western ever made... >> >> FEATURING: Black and White Trypps Number One (6:30, >> 16mm, silent, >> 2005), Daume (7:00, 16mm, 2000), Terra Incognita >> (10:00, 16mm, 2002), >> Black and White Trypps Number Two (8:30, 16mm, >> silent, 2006), The >> Twenty-One Lives of Billy the Kid (55:00, 16mm, >> 2005) >> TRT 87:00 >> >> Ben Donoghue moderates the question and answer >> period following the >> screenings. >> >> For more information, please consult >> www.cineworks.ca or >> contact Colleen Langford at: email suppressed >> OR 604.685.3841 >> >> >> >> * FLICK's WEBSITE: >> http://www.flickharrison.com >> * MYSPACE: >> http://myspace.com/flickharrison >> * BLOG / NEWS: >> http://zeroforconduct.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________________________ >> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at >> <email suppressed>. >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ > For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. __________________________________________________________________ For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:22:00 -0500 From: Jason Cortlund <email suppressed> Subject: Re: Rear Screen projection materials? Pablo-- You might think about contacting the manufacturer of a particular material you like for a possible donation (even better if you can claim any kind of association with an arts non-profit, but even that may not be necessary). For an installation I worked on about a year and a half ago, 3M Corporation graciously donated a large roll of window film specifically designed for museum-quality video rear-projection (we never could have afforded to buy the stuff on our budget). The person we talked to was quite helpful--even advised as to the best material for our site specific purposes. All we had to do was call and ask. I don't even think there were any strings attached, but we did offer them thanks in our list of printed credits. Big multinational mega-corporations (like the aforementioned 3M, who claim to have invented video tape, I might add) can occasionally be good for something, if you get a nice person on the phone who'll take your call. Best of luck, Jason Cortlund __________________________________________________________________ For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:29:06 -0500 From: irene lusztig <email suppressed> Subject: super 8 shutter speed how can i find out the shutter speed of my super 8 camera (canon auto zoom 814) so that i can correctly expose a 500T cartridge with using manual exposure / external light meter? it's not in the manual - where i can find this info? __________________________________________________________________ For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:41:05 -0800 From: Jay Hudson <email suppressed> Subject: Re: super 8 shutter speed You can calculate based on the angle of the shutter/fps. I am not sure what the exacty formula is, but the opening angle for the 814 is 155 degrees. You might want to do an exposure test on a roll of reversal film anyway before you do any mission critical shooting, taking notes as you shoot. Meters are only a "rouge guide" anyway. Hope this helps. --- irene lusztig <email suppressed> wrote: > how can i find out the shutter speed of my super 8 > camera (canon auto > zoom 814) so that i can correctly expose a 500T > cartridge with using > manual exposure / external light meter? it's not in > the manual - > where i can find this info? > > > __________________________________________________________________ > For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at > <email suppressed>. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail __________________________________________________________________ For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:36:38 -0500 From: Tony Conrad <email suppressed> Subject: Re: super 8 shutter speed If the opening is 155 degrees, shutter speed will be: .43 / (frames per second) At 18 fps, shutter speed is .024 sec = 1/42 second At 24 fps, shutter speed is .018 sec = 1/56 second -------t0ny __________________________________________________________________ For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. ------------------------------ End of FRAMEWORKS Digest - 8 Mar 2007 - Special issue (#2007-148) ***************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more….then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 __________________________________________________________________ For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.