Re: labels

From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Jun 28 2006 - 16:34:31 PDT

On 6/28/06, Michael Betancourt <email suppressed> wrote:
> I wasn't dismissing them, nor did I say that you wrote this:
> On 6/28/06, Sam Wells <email suppressed> wrote:
> > > So IF its made with film, then its good? Isn't that just formalism?
> >
> > I never wrote that.
> I was just asking the question the reponse seemed to be begging for...
> > > Nevermind that when the main concern is one of preservation, we're
> > > not talking about a "live" art form, but something that is dead and
> > > we're busy worrying about the formaldehyde smell...
> >
> > I'm kind of stunned by this statement....
> >
> > Are we wasting energy heating and air conditioning libraries ?
> >
> > Should artists and archives not bother with acid-free paper ?
> Depends on the artist, I'd say.
> But the issue of preservation isn't the same as the one of making art,
> nor is it the same as what is "good". Much should be preserved that
> isn't even art, and that gets no objecion from me.
> > > Also, what is this "WHAT" you mention? and how does it make it
> > > "good" ?
> >
> >
> > I had written: "But if WHAT makes it good is what emerges from the
> > _materials_ and how that happens then I think you can't dismiss these
> > issues out of hand either."
> >
> > How does meaning in art arise from the materials ?
> >
> I don't think meaning arises from anything except people who make
> interpretations.

that means you are a phenomenologist
and a anthropocentric thinker
- how sad -
i am more of a rationalist
i have respect for all life forms
and believe/know that all 'things' are life
all 'things' animate - in our definition of such
and inanimate - are life
so within that life there is 'meaning'
in ur line of thought
one persons instantaneous reaction
within interpretation has more 'meaning' than
the sun, the earth, sequoia trees, joshua trees,
banyan trees, the sum of the whole of a film being made then existing +
(a really long list of stuff)
i think your line of thinking is marked
of mankind's present state of egoscentric
(what is known as) thought

Which returns the question of what makes this "good"
> you're talking about, or by implication, what makes a work "bad"?

judgements of good and bad
prerequisite that good and bad actually exist
in an unmutable form


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