Re: Positioning the Audience - universal concepts

From: Freya (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jan 01 2006 - 05:41:13 PST


Well yes, although I'm not sure that it really matters
if it is that way or we just perceive it that way,
surely it would be a universal concept either way?

I have to say that I've not been following the
universal concept thing too well, so might not
understand what you mean by it.

love

Freya

--- Jack Sargeant <email suppressed> wrote:

> uh....I really don't like evoking quantum physics
> because I only have a
> pop-level understanding of it, but I understand that
> some now think
> that time may not be linear but may just be
> perceived that way.
> Jack
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 31, 2005, at 10:02 pm, Freya
> wrote:
>
> > Just to throw one into the pot and I've never
> really
> > considered the idea of universal concepts too
> much,
> > but how about linear time?
> >
> > OK db, I'll bite! What are the 4 paradoxes in the
> > sweedish punk song? ;)
> >
> > love
> >
> > Freya
> >
> > --- db <email suppressed> wrote:
> >
> >> I know I'd find it difficult to name a dozen
> >> "universal" concepts.
> >> Human beings die? We are born? But the process of
> >> birth is changing
> >> in ways that were considered fantasy, even within
> my
> >> lifetime, with
> >> practices like artificial insemination and
> cloning.
> >> So what is
> >> natural about birth, unless one is willing to put
> >> and accept
> >> limitations on that process?
> >>
> >> Concepts are ideas and therefore mutable, so how
> can
> >> they be universal?
> >>
> >> And, while an acceptance of a set of universal
> >> concepts by specific
> >> individuals might very well serve to define "the
> >> common space of a
> >> culture," this occurs only through attempts or
> >> actualizations of
> >> domination based upon partial consensus. This is
> (or
> >> at least has the
> >> potential of leading to) the road to 'Crowds and
> >> Power' or 'The Mass
> >> Psychology of Fascism.' The reality that only
> >> specific individuals
> >> can agree on specific concepts as universal
> >> (whatever they may be) is
> >> another potential proof that denies universality.
> >>
> >> Both paths (acceptance or denial of universals)
> >> contain dangers. Is
> >> that a universal concept?
> >>
> >> All of this reminds me of a Swedish punk song by
> >> Kraldjursanstalten:
> >> This is a song about the three paradoxes of life
> >> which can never be
> >> answered. Well, OK, four paradoxes.
> >>
> >> db
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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