Re: Vogel's Thirteen Confusions as object

From: Pierce, Greg (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Sep 07 2005 - 07:18:49 PDT


Thanks, James & Scott.
James, I would be interested in the responses. If you have the info (issue #) reasonably close at hand I would welcome it. Let me know. I should be able to find a copy of it at one of the libraries or museums here.
Thanks again.
Greg

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From: Experimental Film Discussion List [mailto:email suppressed]On Behalf Of James Kreul
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Vogel's Thirteen Confusions as object

Hello Greg,

Strangely, it is not in the index for the Cinema 16 book but it is in the table of contents, p. 428.

It was originally in Evergreen Review, July 1967. And it's reprinted in Battcock's New American Cinema book.

Less frequently cited are the responses from Parker Tyler, Annette Michelson, and others in a subsequent Evergreen Review. I can look that up again if you're interested.

James Kreul
UNC-Wilmington
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On 9/6/05 4:37 PM, "Pierce, Greg" <email suppressed> wrote:

Hi, James.
Can you tell me where Vogel's "Thirteen Confusions" can be found? It doesn't seem to be listed in the index of the Cinema 16 book or the Wide Angle books.
Wondering, wondering. Thanks.
Greg

< I would temper the call for boosterism with a nod to Amos Vogel's "Thirteen Confusions" which I don't totally agree with but which does serve as a gentle reminder that we also need to create a space to passionately describe what's wrong with what we see.>
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