Re: Bobby Lucifer

From: Jack Sargeant (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Feb 22 2004 - 18:23:54 PST


> not sure what the Manson problem here is, i mean, there's links with
> the Beach Boys and the Beatles and Manson, does that effect your
> appreciation of Pet Sounds or the White Album? I'm not sure artists
> can be responsible for the audience's response to their art, is a
> symbol evoked by the Beatles that supposedly influenced Manson any
> more (or less) potent than any other symbol used by other artists?
> Also, I'm not sure you can draw a line between "camp Magick" and
> "serious dark shit" which i'd suggests superimposes a christian
> duality of good / evil over something that would possibly be seen as
> beyond this.
jack

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> My point wasn't about where Bobby Beausoleil is today, but where
> Kenneth Anger was when he put the score on Lucifer Rising. And the
> issue I was trying to raise isn't about giving a human being a break,
> but how artists position themselves, what consequences accrue to the
> symbols they invoke, and less when they step over society's line,
> than when they step outside the circle of confusion that may define
> their art. That is, all I'm saying is that my appreciation of Anger
> depends on the notion that he is being at least somewhat playful with
> the line between camp Magick and more serious dark shit. The semiotic
> invocation of a Manson connection just freaks me out, it ain't
> playful anymore. Unless your idea of play is sticking a fork in a
> pregnant woman's stomach. Mine isn't, and I don't want to be reminded
> of that in any context that doesn't take it very, very seriously.
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