From: Shelly Silver (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Feb 18 2004 - 11:50:01 PST
what do you mean by preaching to the choir?
on 2/18/04 2:14 PM, James Kreul at email suppressed wrote:
>> If this is your only conclusion, then there is a real lack of communication
>> here. I believe it could be remedied by devoting more attention to what
>> posts actually say, and less energy to imposing upon them prescriptive
>> fictions about how some list members usually react to posts by other list
>> members. I should have realized this sooner, as the bulk of your and
>> Shelley's posts have been preaching to the choir.
>
> You're probably right about the lack of communication, and I'm sorry for my
> role in that. Since my post Ed and Konrad have more articulately and more
> directly alluded to what I was trying to observe about certain threads on
> Frameworks like, um, ours. I'll let you decide if they were also imposing
> fictions on what they have read over the years.
>
>
>> So before withdrawing from the discussion, I would really like to know
>> where you stand on the issue of scapegoating.
>
> I'm completely pro-scapegoating, of course. Who isn't?
>
> But...
>
> ...To the degree that I was attempting (perhaps not very clearly) to
> implicate myself as part of the Frameworks problem (I mentioned I directly
> or indirectly participated in some of those threads) I'm not sure if I was
> scapegoating myself. To the degree that I was trying to draw a parallel
> between things I do not immediately see/understand in these threads
> (including this one, as Ed and Konrad have gently reminded us) and what the
> EC committee might not have been thinking about in their selection process,
> I'm not sure if drawing parallels between yourself and others in an attempt
> at understanding constitutes scapegoating.
>
> If you think I failed in these two attempts, then please tell me and I will
> let that be the last word on the matter.
>
>
> James Kreul
> UW-Madison
> email suppressed
>
>
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